Tech Debt Burndown Podcast Series 2 E3: Jamie Dobson

Posted on Tuesday, Mar 21, 2023
Nick and Chris talk to Jamie Dobson.

Show Notes

Recording date: Apr 1, 2022

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“When you frame technical debt through the lens of strategy, it actually starts to make a lot more sense” - Jamie Dobson

With intros over we ask Jamie about his experience with cloud native transformation. He sees many companies who have made a mess of their cloud migration. They have created a lot of technical debt, which can make it difficult to innovate and can lead to security problems.

Jamie says that the best time to do a do over is when you realize that your cloud migration is not working. However, he acknowledges that this is a difficult decision to make. People often feel like they have invested too much time and money in their current system to change it. However, it is often better to start over than to continue down a path that is not working.

Jamie then talks about how to approach cloud native transformation from a strategic point of view. He says that it is important to understand the company’s goals and objectives before making any decisions about cloud migration. Once you understand the company’s goals, you can then start to think about how cloud native computing can help you achieve those goals.

Jamie concludes by saying that cloud native computing is a powerful tool that can help companies to innovate and grow. However, it is important to approach cloud native transformation in a strategic way in order to get the most out of it.

Guests

Jamie Dobson

Jamie Dobson

Jamie Dobson is co-founder and CEO of Container Solutions, a professional services consultancy specializing in cloud migration. A first encounter with a BBC computer and BASIC at the age of nine launched a lifelong passion for programming and software development. He eventually developed a matching passion for coaching and organizational strategy to help humans work effectively and beneficially with the technology that increasingly drives our lives.

Hosts

Chris Swan

Chris Swan

Chris Swan is an Engineer at Atsign, building the Atsign Platform, an open source networking platform that is putting people in control of their data and removing the frictions and surveillance associated with today’s Internet.

He was previously a Fellow at DXC Technology where he held various CTO roles. Before that he held CTO and Director of R&D roles at Cohesive Networks, UBS, Capital SCF and Credit Suisse, where he worked on app servers, compute grids, security, mobile, cloud, networking and containers.

Chris is an InfoQ Editor writing about cloud, DevOps and security, and is a Dart Google Developer Expert (GDE). He’s a frequent speaking on supply chain security (SBOMs, SLSA and OpenSSF Scorecards), the Dart programming language and AI.

Nick Selby

Nick Selby

Nick Selby is the founder and Managing Partner of EPSD, with a career spanning technology leadership, not-for-profit leadership, law enforcement, and cybersecurity. He serves on the board of directors of the National Child Protection Task Force, and the advisory board of Sightline Security.

He has held key executive roles at Evertas, Trail of Bits, 451 Research (now S&P Global Intelligence), and Paxos Trust. He served as Director of Cyber Intelligence and Investigations at the NYPD, and as both paid and reserve Texas police detective specializing in investigations of child sexual abuse material and online investigations.

He is co-author of several books, including Cyber Attack Survival Manual, Blackhatonomics: An Inside Look at the Economics of Cybercrime, and In Context: Understanding Police Killings of Unarmed Civilians; he was technical editor of Investigating Internet Crimes: An Introduction to Solving Crimes in Cyberspace.